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Thursday, 08 December 2011 13:40

Krishna and Wichita 28nm won’t make it to TSMC

Written by Fuad Abazovic



GloFo 28nm chips cancelled, official


It takes twelve to eighteen months to redesign a chip from one fab to another, a senior industry insider shared.

Krishna and Wichita have been in design for a long time, probably close to two years now, and the news that they will get cancelled disturbed quite a lot of people. It turns out that Globalfoundries simply comes with 28nm too late to make the difference, and AMD wants to use its manpower for something else.

In order to redesign Krishna and Wichita to manufacture them at TSMC, it would take some twelve to eighteen months, again being way too late to make the difference. Bear in mind that Intel has new Atoms scheduled for 2013, now in 22nm and E series chips have to compete with that.

If AMD would switch from GloFo to TSMC and if they already did that let’s say in September, you probably would not see these chips out before the end of 2012, perhaps even later. By the time AMD would have enough of them to market, Intel would come out with its 22nm parts, rendering them obsolete at launch. On the other hand, waiting for GloFo to ready its 28nm process would give the new chips a pretty short shelf life, since they would be replaced in a matter of months, which is not something OEMs are crazy about.

AMD is set to release its new roadmaps during an analyst conference scheduled for February 2012, so I guess this will be the time to learn about the big changes that Rory plans to make. Let’s hope he knows what he is doing.

Fuad Abazovic

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+2 #1 dicobalt 2011-12-08 15:11
If AMD can execute these changes on time then this is definitely a better move than releasing a minimally competitive 28nm part. That's if they can do it on time.
 
 
0 #2 brad 2011-12-08 16:35
sure, it may have been the right call to cancel it, but i can't help thinking that the real right call would have been to design for both fabs 2 years ago. you gotta figure someone's gonna screw up because all these transitions are always screwed up. and this is such an important chip for AMD.

annyways, i didn't get the sense that it was gonna be great. seems like the TDP was still too high. i did dig that it integrated the whole chipset.

anyways, i hope they get the TDP way down with the next version and it comes early and that everything works.
 
 
+2 #3 stoneeh 2011-12-08 17:58
Glofo should just cease operation and AMD should go TSMC only. At least TSMC gets it right most of the time and can at least somewhat keep up with Intel's pace of die size shrinks.
 
 
0 #4 Super XP 2011-12-08 19:11
The problem is AMD should never have gone Fabless. Massive Big Mistake, I mean just look at how many times GloFo is F**ing up? It's costing AMD a lot of money.
Also in regards to AMD should have designed the chips based on two different fabs, that would be a great idea, but AMD doesn't have the R&D along with money to do such a thing. Intel on the other hand can do this and does this to ensure the chips run the way they were meant to before release.

I think the new CEO is taking AMD in the right direction, just hope he pushes discrete Graphics and Desktop CPU performance, but just keep it low key in a way to surprize Intel, just as they did with the great Athlon 64, where AMD ruled in Price/Performance and caught the world by surprize. Just my take boyz 8)
 
 
-1 #5 Jay 2011-12-08 19:25
+1 brad. Exactly my point. SuperXP just go away troll. AMD had no choice but to go fabless coz they were in debt...even a hardcore troll like you needs to realize that. If they didn't sell their fab. they wouldn't exist today most probably. Its not all Global Foundries fault its a new company it takes time to get things running smoothly. AMD should've thought of the bigger picture they didn't now they pay the price. WTF is new CEO doing he's a fag he needs to first off price the Brazos platform similar to Atom to gain share. AMD always gives more than Intel at a lesser price right that's their selling point but with Brazos costing in between an Atom & i3 laptop it makes no sense, people will always buy i3 or shit Atom. Go tell ur fag CEO that you AMD marketing troll.
 
 
+1 #6 Bl0bb3r 2011-12-09 00:01
AMD or GF, doesn't matter who owns the fabs, they would still go through the same problems, as all the other fab owners do. Do you think at TSMC all is peachy? Or how about intel pushing and pushing... back all of their launch dates?


Also planing for the future, you mean in 2008/2009 to plan for a grim future? No.

The one problem selling the fabs created is that GF doesn't have to hurry because AMD says so or needs to. Before that, fab workers did all they could to speed up the process and to get the chips out on time, but now GF needs to tend to other tasks, and when the process is done it is done, period. at intel they can still pressure their engineers, but as we see they keep delaying.
 
 
+2 #7 brad 2011-12-09 00:12
Bl0bb3r, agreed. TSMC isn't any great shakes either.

I thought this chip was portable so it wouldnt be that hard to make two versions?

GloFo would probably be worse today if AMD didnt sell the fab, because AMD would be broke!

Jay, good for AMD for selling above atom. their chip is way better, so it's worth more $.
 
 
0 #8 Russell 2011-12-11 23:11
Quoting Super XP:
I think the new CEO is taking AMD in the right direction, just hope he pushes discrete Graphics and Desktop CPU performance, but just keep it low key in a way to surprize Intel, just as they did with the great Athlon 64, where AMD ruled in Price/Performance and caught the world by surprize. Just my take boyz 8)


You make it sound as though it's as simple for the CEO to say "Ok, boys, let's design a top-notch CPU and GPU that will blow Intel's shit away and have it ready for next year".

If it were that simple, they'd have done that already.
 

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