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Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:05

Bulldozer comes on September 19th

Written by Fuad Abazovic


Eight cores for desktop
AMD's A-list is currently seeing what we know as Bulldozer at a secret presentation in Huston, Texas. They will be showed AMD's much delayed answer to Core i7 and Core i5 processors but our multiple, well informed sources claim that it won’t be able to beat the Core i7 second generation, Sandy Bridge core. However not everything is lost as AMD's six and eight-core CPUs will end up significantly cheaper and will offer pretty good value for money.

The issue is the IPC, instructions per clock don’t perform as well we they should and they cannot do enough calculations fast to beat Intel's current offering. Let’s not even mention that the third generation of Core i7, Ivy Bridge at 22nm will be even faster. And there is Sandy Bridge E coming to take over the crown lead.

AMD at least got its act together and can produce this rather complicated chip in volume, as our sources claim that Bulldozer yields are at good levels, and that they are in much better shape than Llano, AMD’s A-series APU.

The good thing is that this chip is showing its face after a two year delay. Bear in mind that Bulldozer is the first massive change of AMD core after K8 and K10 and that it has to last for a very long time.
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+2 #1 nforce4max 2011-08-31 19:32
At least they are for once putting in the effort to get something decent out and am going BD down the line any way. At least AMD doesn't cost an arm, leg, and a kidney while leaving enough of a budget on the side for the rest of the system to be decent enough compared to those $1-3k Intel rigs.
 
 
-5 #2 bardenck 2011-08-31 20:15
Quoting nforce4max:
At least they are for once putting in the effort to get something decent out and am going BD down the line any way. At least AMD doesn't cost an arm, leg, and a kidney while leaving enough of a budget on the side for the rest of the system to be decent enough compared to those $1-3k Intel rigs.



so 315 dollars(2600k) is the cost of an arm, leg, and kidney these days??
 
 
0 #3 nele 2011-08-31 20:22
Quoting bardenck:
Quoting nforce4max:
At least they are for once putting in the effort to get something decent out and am going BD down the line any way. At least AMD doesn't cost an arm, leg, and a kidney while leaving enough of a budget on the side for the rest of the system to be decent enough compared to those $1-3k Intel rigs.



so 315 dollars(2600k) is the cost of an arm, leg, and kidney these days??



I want three of each.

I need spares.
 
 
+3 #4 Sodomy 2011-08-31 21:13
Quoting bardenck:
Quoting nforce4max:
At least they are for once putting in the effort to get something decent out and am going BD down the line any way. At least AMD doesn't cost an arm, leg, and a kidney while leaving enough of a budget on the side for the rest of the system to be decent enough compared to those $1-3k Intel rigs.



so 315 dollars(2600k) is the cost of an arm, leg, and kidney these days??


yeah nowdays intel is good in the pricing department, but I can remeber when the top end intel consumer (non extreme editions) cost upwards of $800 when the comparative AMD chip was $4-500
 
 
-6 #5 gamoniac 2011-08-31 22:00
Xbitlabs' sources say there could be another delay of BD release date. I hope not.
 
 
0 #6 zybex 2011-08-31 22:01
Would that be Inter-Processor Communication (IPC) problems?

Intructions-per-clock is pretty much well known and modeled from the beginning of the design phase...
 
 
+2 #7 Haberlandt 2011-08-31 22:12
Finally!
 
 
0 #8 dew111 2011-08-31 22:17
Quoting zybex:
Would that be Inter-Processor Communication (IPC) problems?

Intructions-per-clock is pretty much well known and modeled from the beginning of the design phase...




This is true, however, models can't always account for factors in an our-of-order execution engine. Slight malfunctions in a cache controller could have a big influence on a design's IPC for example.

AMD has stated that BD isn't an IPC machine, it's optimized for much higher clock speeds (ideally) with similar IPC to the current Phenom cores. Throughput is also dramatically better than even with Intel HyperThreading. Of course, most desktop users don't complain about total throughput.
 
 
-5 #9 dan 2011-08-31 22:19
FUD FUD FUD from Fudo. As usual. He's so pissed off that Kepler is late and shit, and AMD 7000 series is about to launch.
 
 
0 #10 cantsee19 2011-08-31 22:25
Quote:
They will be showed AMD's much delayed answer to Core i7 and Core i5 processors but our multiple, well informed sources claim that it won’t be able to beat the Core i7 second generation, Sandy Bridge core.


Not able to beat a Core I7? In what? Everything? Also, how will the price be "significantly cheaper" if AMD estimated that its 8-Core processor will be $300?

And who are these "informed" sources that you mention? From my understanding, AM3+ motherboards just recently got a BIOS update. Go look at Gigabyte's CPU support list for the 990 boards. It was updated with a new BIOS two days ago.

I'm assuming your sources are connected to the board manufacturers?
 

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