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Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:20

Larrabee ipso facto will half not bee

Written by Nick Farell
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GPU not interested in graphics
Chipzilla has lifted the kimono on its Larrabee 50 core GPU but is telling us that it has no intention of using the technology to run graphics.

Larrabee was part of a cunning hardware software GPU effort that tanked in 2009. At the time Intel said that the hardware part of the project would be resurrected in a new project.

Now it looks like the Larrabee GPU will finally go into commercial production next year, but as a glorified coproccessor. Its 50-core goodness will be fused on Intel's 22nm chip and targeted at giving Nvidia a heart attack. Nvidia has also been trying to flog its Tesla  GPU's to data centres and high performance computing manufacturers with no interest in graphics.

It is now looking like 2010's Knight's family of HPC coprocessors was just a test run for Larrabee in this market. The Knight's family was shipped in limited quantities and Chipzilla started to say that it was based on Many Integrated Core (MIC) architecture.

Today's announcement is that the Knight's family is now ready for heavy commercialisation. First off the bloke is the 50-core Knight's Corner chip on 22nm. Intel said that it will work with GI and other system integrators that plan to build commercial HPC systems around the MIC silicon.

It puts Nvidia in a tricky place. On one hand Intel's Knights corner will give its Tesla a run for its money and on the other integrated processor graphics (IPGs) like Sandy Bridge and AMD's Llano are carving up the discrete GPU market.

Intel claims that MIC is better than Tesla because its x86 cores is easy for users to port their existing toolchains to it.  If you want to use Tesla you have to use Nvidia's proprietary CUDA platform.

So far no one in Intel has been talking about the performance differences between the two technologies. Jon Stokes at Ars Technica pointed out that Intel is not changing its interconnect architecture for Knight's Ferry.

This means that the beast will have 50 cores hanging  off a single, high-performance yet power-hungry ring bus. We will probably know more details soon, but if that is the case, Nvidia can argue that Tesla gives a higher performance with a lower power draw, which is exactly what a database manager wants to hear.

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+26 #1 hanoking 2011-06-21 12:37
Intel has no intention to run graphics means that Intel is the equivalent of "0" in graphics technology.
 
 
+11 #2 yourma2000 2011-06-21 14:04
They showed a video on Youtube saying "Raytracing Wolfenstein on a laptop" turned out to be a laptop connected to four different servers that was performing the raytracing for it, each one having the 50 core "graphics card" totalling up to 200 GPU cores something which could be done in Crossfire or SLI, misleading concepts and totally unimpressive anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVZDH15TRro
 
 
+9 #3 bardenck 2011-06-21 14:36
integrated processor graphics (IPGs) like Sandy Bridge and AMD's Llano are carving up the discrete GPU market.



hardly
 
 
+6 #4 bardenck 2011-06-21 15:19
Quoting hanoking:
Intel has no intention to run graphics means that Intel is the equivalent of "0" in graphics technology.



being that we are in a 3D revolution, you would think they would make the effort!
 
 
+8 #5 The blue fox 2011-06-21 16:04
Oh my god it's back. I wish intel would stop focusing on processing power and and start on GPU power.
 
 
0 #6 Deanjo 2011-06-21 16:30
Quote:
FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear. ---Charlie Demerjian Feb 5th/2009"


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050851/intel-design-playstation-gpu
 
 
+4 #7 Orumus 2011-06-21 16:44
Quoting Deanjo:
Quote:
FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear. ---Charlie Demerjian Feb 5th/2009"


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050851/intel-design-playstation-gpu


ya look at the date on that article... 2009.... That is about as likely to happen as hell freezing over and Satan selling Popsicles..
 
 
+2 #8 Deanjo 2011-06-21 17:00
Quoting Orumus:
ya look at the date on that article... 2009.... That is about as likely to happen as hell freezing over and Satan selling Popsicles..


Yup just another one of Charlies failures to grip reality.
 
 
+3 #9 hanoking 2011-06-21 19:23
Quoting Deanjo:
Quote:
FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear. ---Charlie Demerjian Feb 5th/2009"


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050851/intel-design-playstation-gpu


That was Charlie back in the days believing in Intels ability in graphics and executing in Larrabee. He has grown up alot since then.
 
 
+3 #10 yourma2000 2011-06-21 19:28
Quoting Deanjo:
Quote:
FOR THE NEXT next generation of consoles, PS4, XBox3 and Wii2, it looks like Intel is in, Nvidia is out. The picture for their GPUs is starting to become clear. ---Charlie Demerjian Feb 5th/2009"


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1050851/intel-design-playstation-gpu


Bullshit, intel bias article from the dawn of time, Microsoft have already sealed a deal with AMD to produce their second generation of fusion chips for their 3rd Xbox and Nintendo are likely to follow due to their loyalty to ATI/AMD since the Gamecube, also there was a rumour that the PS4 maybe AMD powered
 

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