Wednesday, 05 October 2011 11:41

Vishera Bulldozer FX successor in Q3 12

Written by Fuad Abazovic


Volan platform, AM3+ socket
October 12 will be a big day for AMD FX lovers, but we are sure that at least a few of you would like to see a glimpse of the Buldozer FX successor. Let me remind you that we've already wrote about Buldozer successor and the chipset here.

Trinity is the new APU that replaces Lynx platform and Llano and Vishera cores a part of the Volan platform will replace the soon to launch Scorpius. Vishera cores are expected to ship in Q3 2012 if AMD doesn’t face any delays, and yet again this is a 32nm product. Bear in mind that Intel is about to launch its 22nm Ivy Bridge by April 2012 and AMD won’t have 22nm at least until some point of 2013.

Vishera will have at least three different SKU categories and we can only suspect to see eight-core, six-core and a quad-core CPUs.  Piledriver CPU cores are supposed to be 10 percent faster than Bulldozer cores that you find in AMD FX series, and we can hope that AMD can increase frequencies and get some more performance out of the Volan platform in second part of 2012.

The date to expect is July to September and if all goes well, AMD's next generation high end platform might launch at time for back to school next year. The important part is that new Vishera CPUs based on Piledriver cores will fit socket AM3+ motherboard, and we are sure that many will appreciate it. Your Bulldozer FX motherboard should be ok to accommodate the Vishera CPU once it comes out.

The chipset of choice is AMD 990FX + SB950, that appears feature packed, but it still lacks native USB 3.0. You can get USB 3.0 from third party chips and any serious board vendor will make sure to include them.

 

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-17 #1 Jigar 2011-10-05 11:50
My Q6600 is getting a little old but i will still skip bulldozer just to punish AMD for this delay.
 
 
+2 #2 nt300 2011-10-05 12:37
Your LOSS.
It looks like AMD plans on moving it's entire Desktop line on Socket FM2 by early to mid 2013. Good job for sticking with Socket AM3+, another insentive for people to buy Bulldozer once it gets released and not waiting....
Quoting Jigar:
My Q6600 is getting a little old but i will still skip bulldozer just to punish AMD for this delay.
 
 
-9 #3 Jigar 2011-10-05 12:50
Quoting Jigar:
My Q6600 is getting a little old but i will still skip bulldozer just to punish AMD for this delay.


On second thought i think i deserve the negative thumbs, keep em coming.
 
 
+11 #4 nt300 2011-10-05 14:38
Just got some inside information in regards to AMD's FX line of Bulldozer CPU's. AMD has a little secret and it has to do with how the new CPU's communicates with graphics when in game within a real world scenario. It also has to do with turning off un-needed cores while jacking up the clocks for those cores which are being used.
Not sure when AMD is going to release this special CPU driver that will enable Bulldozer to actually Bulldoze it's way to supremacy. I mean it could already be implemented inside the CPU's right now.
 
 
+4 #5 hoohoo 2011-10-05 15:17
Much as I respect AMD (and I've used AMD CPUs at home and in the server room), this is laughable: announcement of the replacement core for the core that has not shipped yet and which is several years late.

Show me the beef before you try to sell me the veal, I say.
 
 
-6 #6 Blue Fear 2011-10-05 15:19
Quoting nt300:
Just got some inside information in regards to AMD's FX line of Bulldozer CPU's. AMD has a little secret and it has to do with how the new CPU's communicates with graphics when in game within a real world scenario. It also has to do with turning off un-needed cores while jacking up the clocks for those cores which are being used.
Not sure when AMD is going to release this special CPU driver that will enable Bulldozer to actually Bulldoze it's way to supremacy. I mean it could already be implemented inside the CPU's right now.

shit just got real
 
 
+6 #7 hoohoo 2011-10-05 15:20
Quoting nt300:
Just got some inside information in regards to AMD's FX line of Bulldozer CPU's. AMD has a little secret and it has to do with how the new CPU's communicates with graphics when in game within a real world scenario. It also has to do with turning off un-needed cores while jacking up the clocks for those cores which are being used.
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You raise a good point IMHO - if the CPU could pump data into the GPU using shared registers not shared RAM then that should provide a huge performance boost.

So far on Brazos/Ontario this does not seem to be the case. If BD were capable of this then AMD would have a strong card.
 
 
+6 #8 The_Countess 2011-10-05 15:52
Quoting hoohoo:
Much as I respect AMD (and I've used AMD CPUs at home and in the server room), this is laughable: announcement of the replacement core for the core that has not shipped yet and which is several years late.

they dropped the originally planned bulldozer all together.
so if they had changed the name of this one then it would only have been a few months late?

that they didn't change the name seems like a rather strange reason too call it laughable.

Quote:
Show me the beef before you try to sell me the veal, I say.

pictures of the review kits have been spotted on the internet. its real.
final stepping: b2f
 
 
+4 #9 hoohoo 2011-10-05 16:16
Quote:
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Quote:
Show me the beef before you try to sell me the veal, I say.

pictures of the review kits have been spotted on the internet. its real.
final stepping: b2f


Hmph! let me be more clear: put the beef on the counter where I can buy it.

[edit] That said, I am glad to learn it is in final stepping. I am supposed to build a small test cluster (30 or 40 cores). Phenom x6 makes a lot of sense, but is dead end, I've been waiting with slowly mounting impatience for BD.
 
 
-4 #10 hoohoo 2011-10-05 16:17
Quoting The_Countess:
Quoting hoohoo:
Much as I respect AMD (and I've used AMD CPUs at home and in the server room), this is laughable: announcement of the replacement core for the core that has not shipped yet and which is several years late.

they dropped the originally planned bulldozer all together.
so if they had changed the name of this one then it would only have been a few months late?
...


Semantics, dear Countess, mere semantics.
 

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