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Monday, 04 July 2011 08:53

Kepler 28nm to launch in Q1 2012

Written by Fuad Abazovic


Early intelligence
We got word that Kepler, Nvidia's successor to Fermi architecture and its first 28nm part won’t launch until Q1 2012.

Our sources from the Far East are telling us that it’s the maturity of the 28nm process is to blame and that the chip could theoretically make it to very late Q4 2011 launch, but sources close to company are telling them that it would not make much sense to launch it that late in the quarter.

ATI is still on schedule to launch its 28nm chip in 2011, other sources are telling us, and ATI’s chip will be affected by the same issues, mainly the poor yields of the 28nm process. Even if ATI launches in 2011, very late Q3 or first half of Q4 2011 were the dates that we’ve heard, the chip wont really be massively available until some point in 2012.

Transitioning to a new process in the graphics word is always painful, and it took TSMC a lot to go from 65nm to 40nm and now, they are again faced with a difficult transition to 28nm and bad yields for quarters to come.
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+40 #1 dan 2011-07-04 10:38
So AMD will be first with 28nm, as they always are with new processes. And yet Fudo tries to spin it by saying that availablility will be poor? Why don't you just publish the amount of money that Nvidia pays you, Fudo?
 
 
+15 #2 nele 2011-07-04 10:42
Quoting dan:
So AMD will be first with 28nm, as they always are with new processes. And yet Fudo tries to spin it by saying that availablility will be poor? Why don't you just publish the amount of money that Nvidia pays you, Fudo?


Let me check the last invoice...

It was €11,200 in May. Good gig, eh? :lol:
 
 
+13 #3 Bl0bb3r 2011-07-04 10:48
Nvidia is getting more and more pathetic, I didn't think they can sink any lower.

They blamed TSMC last time for 40nm, but AMD did fine... now they try that again.

Nvidia, restructure you management or you'll get bought by intel.
 
 
-10 #4 muppet show 2011-07-04 10:51
Quoting dan:
So AMD will be first with 28nm, as they always are with new processes. And yet Fudo tries to spin it by saying that availablility will be poor? Why don't you just publish the amount of money that Nvidia pays you, Fudo?


Retarded comment.

What do you expect him to do? Leap around, let off a couple of fireworks, get blind drunk and not come into work the next day in celebration?

TSMC is as much the story as NVIDIA or AMD, especially as both companies are still relying on it as their fab.

It bears mentioning that yields are going to be poor ... because 1) This means more expensive GPUs per unit for NVIDIA & AMD (passed on to consumer) 2) Less availability (which again means higher prices at retail).
 
 
-1 #5 nele 2011-07-04 10:55
Quoting muppet show:
It bears mentioning that yields are going to be poor ... because 1) This means more expensive GPUs per unit for NVIDIA & AMD (passed on to consumer) 2) Less availability (which again means higher prices at retail).


Yeah, we haven't had a real GPU shortage in almost two years.

The first half of 2012 will probably be a mess, as usual.
 
 
+29 #6 Mr. Awesome 2011-07-04 11:20
This article pretty much got scooped by forum threads like this one. http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5043

Nvidia can't get Kepler out the door any earlier, regardless of TSMC's abilities. It taped out too late for that.
 
 
+22 #7 chyll2 2011-07-04 11:20
Quoting dan:
So AMD will be first with 28nm, as they always are with new processes. And yet Fudo tries to spin it by saying that availablility will be poor? Why don't you just publish the amount of money that Nvidia pays you, Fudo?

lol

Nvidia is already making excuses!(since they already know AMD will be able to do it) they say the same thing for 40nm.
 
 
+16 #8 Nerdfighter 2011-07-04 12:38
Sure hope this won't be Fermi all over again. I hope whatever delay is because of TSMC and not because of an overly complex architecture by Nvidia. AMD still claims to launch in 2011, why can't Nvidia?
 
 
0 #9 loadwick 2011-07-04 12:57
Quoting Bl0bb3r:
Nvidia, restructure you management or you'll get bought by intel.



I quite like that idea. Imagine one of nVidia's crazy massive GPUs that takes about 3 years to get right and is still too hot but now using Intel's much more advanced tech and money.

nVidia visualised GPUs being released on time and using 22nm process. As long as AMD's Bulldozer and Graphics Core Next tech all works well it would certain spice up the market.
 
 
+21 #10 eXistential 2011-07-04 13:39
Darn, I really wanted to upgrade my vid card this year to Kepler or Souther Islands. In time for BF3!
 

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