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Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:25

Adreno 220 is 2X faster than Tegra

Written by Fuad Abazovic


Qualcomm claims
We spoke to a chap who got poached from AMD by Qualcomm and now takes care of Adreno graphics.

Adreno is basically the Imageon mobile GPU, previously owned by ATI (AMD) and acquired by Qualcomm for a lousy $65 million. Adreno, or Imageon is something that will help Qualcomm to stay in the graphics game.

Qualcomm claims that its soon to ship dual-core Scorpion CPU powered by Adreno 220 graphics offers about two times more GPU performance than Tegra 2. Adreno 220 powered dual-core Scorpion chips should end up in 60 devices in the first half of 2011, something that will put a lot of pressure of Nvidia’s graphically slower Tegra 2.

It will be fun to compare the two, but we still have to see a phone powered by dual-core Scorpion, but everything indicates that this will happen this year.

Tegra 2 phones and tablets should ship in March, and some tablets are already available, powered by Android 2.2 and based on Tegra 2. It looks like Qualcomm can win this round, but Tegra 3 looks to be coming in August and Qualcomm said that its dual- and quad-core 28 parts should come in early 2012.
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+8 #1 loadwick 2011-02-17 10:45
Its amazing how fast paced the mobile chip industry is atm. Can't wait for Intel throw their new chip into the ring that will supposedly 'blow away anything ARM has to offer'!! I think i will believe that when i see it but i love all this compition and every day a new chip is announced that makes the old one look like retarded.

I only wish the PC industry was like this, at most we can look forward to 15% performance increase from a new chip once every year or two. I guess thats the price we pay for only having one and half companies truly competing.
 
 
+7 #2 loadwick 2011-02-17 10:58
Does anybody else get really pee'd off at trying to keep track of all the different timelines? You have products being announced which can be anything from 6 months to 5 years away. You have products that will be 'availible' at a certain date but that has no real baring on when we see the product as it seems to take an incredibly long time go from Announced to Prototype to Shipping to Actual Phones.

Also, is there not a standardised benchmark that everyone could agree to so that people can really understand what each chip is offering over the other. Saying 2x fast than this one and that one was 6x better than the last one and so on isn't the clearest way to describe a product.
 
 
+11 #3 pogsnet 2011-02-17 12:17
@loadwick
Intel has no chance on this market category, not even soon, just maybe in the far future. Until they improve their lousy GPU which is needed for a balanced system.

This news is good, it will bring new competitive products on the market. And more importantly more competitive pricing.
 
 
+13 #4 razorleaf 2011-02-17 12:59
It is all down to software, with Intel and AMD have got a lot of advantage at the moment.
 
 
+12 #5 Bl0bb3r 2011-02-17 13:33
Quoting loadwick:
at most * 15% performance increase * only having one and half companies truly competing.



That's not the main reason... one mistake that you made was to compare extremely complex GPU's we have in our desktops with really lousy logic that's in mobile GPU's. Compare a miniature-plastic-toy car with a supercar hybrid, does that seem sound to you?

Another mistake was the fact that they're at the beginning of mobile graphics and the limits have not yet been set. It's not that hard to make them faster, while on the desktop things are different, by a huge margin. Do you know the power usage of such GPU's? No, and nor do they.

It's not the first time nvidia barked the Tegra-success, only to show failure and delays.
 
 
+1 #6 haxxorking 2011-02-17 17:55
Quoting loadwick:
I only wish the PC industry was like this, at most we can look forward to 15% performance increase from a new chip once every year or two. I guess thats the price we pay for only having one and half companies truly competing.


Come on, PC industry *used* to e exacltly like this the years after nVidia's TNT card.. It's only natural that this kind of development moves to a "hotter" marked which also happens to be fairly immature and theres a lot of room for improvement. The PC market is slowly dying. In a couple of years, only people who produce and develop stuff will feel a need to have a pc/mac.. all regular users will get all they need through their mobile phones and tablets (and "cloudgaming" on your 60" tv at home...

/haX
 
 
+3 #7 The blue fox 2011-02-18 02:38
Quoting haxxorking:
The PC market is slowly dying. In a couple of years, only people who produce and develop stuff will feel a need to have a pc/mac.. all regular users will get all they need through their mobile phones and tablets (and "cloudgaming" on your 60" tv at home...

/haX


Do you know how many times People have protected the death of the PC?
Seams like every year. And guess what there still here. Mobile devices and tablets don't offer the same experience as a desktop.
And it's not just me saying this. both Steve Jobs the maker of the iPad, iPhone, iEct. And Bill Gates have said the same thing.
And "cloudgaming? The amount of bandwidth it would take. Not to mention the lag.
 
 
+1 #8 loadwick 2011-02-18 12:04
My comments were mostly tongue-in-cheek but my point is valid, the PC industry doesn't have anywhere near enough competition to move at anything other than a snail's pass.

Just think if IBM's PowerPC, DEC Alpha, SPARC... were all competing on the desktop front! One thing is for sure we would not have been at 3GHz for 4 years!!
 
 
+1 #9 The blue fox 2011-02-19 00:58
Quoting loadwick:
My comments were mostly tongue-in-cheek but my point is valid, the PC industry doesn't have anywhere near enough competition to move at anything other than a snail's pass.

Just think if IBM's PowerPC, DEC Alpha, SPARC... were all competing on the desktop front! One thing is for sure we would not have been at 3GHz for 4 years!!

Well CPU Clock speed has not gone up. The amount of cores has.
 
 
+3 #10 loadwick 2011-02-19 08:33
I truly can not believe people are disagreeing with me. Are you really saying you don't think the rate of development would be faster if there was 5 or 6 equal companies fighting it out?
If Apple hadn't of ditched the PowerPC then, from the roadmaps, they would have an 8-core CPU running at +6GHz with the CELL architechture running as an APU.

The biggest, most corrupt monopoly in the world is the x86 licence. Someone should step in and make that free to anyone and let the games begin.

Hopefully we might see some changes now Windows is on ARM but that will take a long time.
 

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