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Tuesday, 27 July 2010 08:23

Nvidia GF104 has 384 shaders

Written by Fuad Abazovic
geforce
GTX 470 replacement is near
We have already written here that GF104 has eight clusters and 384 shaders in total, but this time we have confirmed some further details.

Nvidia plans to launch a GF104 card with all eight cluster and 384 shaders enabled as long as it sells what’s left of the Geforce GTX 470 cards. The 470 cards are not selling that great but they are still selling, and as soon as they run out, Nvidia will simply announce the new card, let’s calling Geforce GTX 475 for now.

We are quite sure that the card will end up faster than the Geforce GTX 470 based on the GF100 Fermi chip, but at this time we don’t know any exact details.

The new card based on the fully enabled core with 384 shaders is planned and now its just a matter of time before we see it in retail.We expect to see this card by the end of summer, but this is also to be confirmed.

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+21 #1 Alexko 2010-07-27 09:34
Which confirms that GF100 is discontinued.
 
 
+1 #2 FoxMontage 2010-07-27 11:14
The GTX470 has 448 shaders if I'm not wrong. Why do we expect a chip with 384 shaders to better this?
 
 
+16 #3 kniaugaudiskis 2010-07-27 11:43
Quoting FoxMontage:
The GTX470 has 448 shaders if I'm not wrong. Why do we expect a chip with 384 shaders to better this?

GF104 draws less power and heats less than GF100, so GF104 allows significantly higher core speeds, what should be enough to make a new card faster than GTX470.
 
 
+11 #4 Kimnice 2010-07-27 13:17
Quoting FoxMontage:
The GTX470 has 448 shaders if I'm not wrong. Why do we expect a chip with 384 shaders to better this?

For the same reason why GTX 465 loses against GTX 460 1GB..despite 465 has more shaders: It's clocked higher.
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If they'd use this kind of specs:
Core: 750MHz
Shaders: 1500MHz
Memory: 1050MHz (4200MHz effective)
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-With these specs it would have about 6% higher shader performance
-Equal pixel fillrate
-Would simply murder GTX 470 in texture fillrate (GTX 460 is already better than GTX 470 in this)
-Equal memory bandwidht
-Smaller amount of vram


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With this kind of specs the best possible names for this new card: GTX 470+ > GTX 470 > GTX 475.
 
 
+8 #5 blandead 2010-07-28 04:50
I guess these are the two cards that will be sandwhiched together to make GTX295 Fermi equivilant. too bad we won't be seeing a GTX 485 since clusters are maxed.

Honestly I think their GF100 architecture would be great on 28nm process. If it solved all the heating problems and brought the temps down to 70C on max load while not having much noise it would overclock great. We saw how good Fermis improve from overclocking no matter what kind. GF100 design too early to try to put it on 40nm. It was like the first Phenom but on 65nm. Potential was there, but too limited, now on 45nm and optimized a bit its pretty darn good. I expect this might be their answer for next gen 28nm thats what I would do anyway unless they have an even better architechture design
 
 
-1 #6 Bullgodking 2010-07-28 06:31
Clearly they wasn't ready with Fermi and they made due and sold what they could get away with until this this new chip was ready. Just my opinion
 
 
-6 #7 spede 2010-07-28 07:04
That's all fine and dandy but more interesting is that Nvidia lost patent fight against Rambus and hast to pay a lot of money for them.
 
 
-7 #8 SiliconDoc 2010-07-28 22:01
So with the GTX460 768 and 1G stomping the 5850, approaching the 5870, and OC'ing and SLI scaling to the outer limits- this full version coming will bring shame down on ati's outdated multi-clone of the HD2900 architecture 5000 series.

AMD/ATI lost money again in Q2, and now Q3 has ati losing even more.

If you don't have a 30 inch 2560x1680 monitor you're a FOOL buying 5850 or 5870 now since the GTX460 DOMINATES everything below the highest resolution across the board.
 
 
0 #9 Patjuh 2010-07-28 22:31
Weird, but if it works...
 
 
-1 #10 FoxMontage 2010-07-29 01:00
Oh SiliconDic, read the article. It's about an NVIDIA chip. Nobody mentioned your despised red rooster here.
Quoting SiliconDoc:
So with the GTX460 768 and 1G stomping the 5850, approaching the 5870, and OC'ing and SLI scaling to the outer limits- this full version coming will bring shame down on ati's outdated multi-clone of the HD2900 architecture 5000 series.

AMD/ATI lost money again in Q2, and now Q3 has ati losing even more.

If you don't have a 30 inch 2560x1680 monitor you're a FOOL buying 5850 or 5870 now since the GTX460 DOMINATES everything below the highest resolution across the board.
 

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