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1  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / General Discussion / Re: On May, 9th day of a victory of the USSR above Germany on: May 11, 2009, 12:39:02 AM
Uhm, no politics please...  Grin
2  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Graphs used in reviews on: April 09, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
You are absolutely right.

While back I suggested flash graphs, which would dramatically improve reading and interpreting of graphs.

I suggested hand drawn graphs on napkins, but Fudo and I had some artistic differences.
3  Hardware / Graphics Cards / Re: XFX Radeons to be Available January 5th - yeah, that soon. on: January 04, 2009, 09:47:12 PM
No 4670?

Apparently not, but this is just the first batch.

BTW, black PCBs for 48xx series cards, not sure about the others.
4  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Typos, spelling and grammar on: December 19, 2008, 06:11:40 PM
Well, it sounds like this thread has made some kind of impact and things should continue to get better in the future, and that's all I was really hoping for Smiley

As I said, we take all serious suggestions and comments into consideration. We know we're still far from perfect on a number of fronts, but we're constantly working on improving the quality of the content and the site itself.

The Firefox spell checker isn't too bad I find (on Windows at least, Linux uses its own spell checkers) but most people either have it disabled or have it set to the wrong dictionary. I had it turned on throughout this thread because if I made a bunch of spelling mistakes in a thread about spelling mistakes, that would be a bit of a problem Wink

It's not too bad, but it's dictionary is rather limited, and it has some other issues too...

I don't know about the RSS not receiving the edits. As I added in a small edit to my previous post, RSS doesn't actually contain the content, just a link to the main site. The aggregator (a word that Firefox's spell checker doesn't seem to have) either just links your browser to the main article page or fetches the article itself by going to that URI via HTTP, which is why if you use RSS in something like Thunderbird then most of your time is spent scrolling down past all the rubbish at the top of the page for every single article like a giant fudzilla logo and a banner ad - if you use a laptop you probably won't be able to see any of the article without scrolling down at all. Thunderbird doesn't even cache the web page, just the RSS so as long as the link doesn't change for an edit and the main page does receive the edit, Thunderbird should see it.

My point was that our RSS doesn't seem to refresh after a certain story is edited, even if the headline is changed. I'm not the best person to talk to when it comes to RSS, I don't use it.

I'm looking forward to the new design and RSS. Maybe even setting the HTTP response Content-Type header to "application/xhtml+xml" for browsers that support it (see HTTP request Accept header) so that the XHTML can actually be used rather than just being read in with an old HTML parser? Smiley

I can't go into detail at this moment, I'm not taking part in the redesign at this stage, It's being taken care of by the guys in Austria and Holland, so I don't want to promise anything we won't be able to deliver.

I'm not just struggling to think of bad things to say and so picking on your spelling and grammar. The quality of the content is something that you will never really be able to change much (at least not without hiring completely new staff and paying them a lot more, which would just ruin Fudzilla). You may not have all the facts and you have to make certain assumptions or interpretations sometimes and they may end up being wrong. For example, the recent NVIDIA 6 partner mistake. Because that will never change and all of your competitors face the same problems, you have to look for other areas to improve in.

I wasn't talking about your comments, but rather comments on other sites or discussion boards. Several sites have bashed citing the reasons I mentioned in my previous post, even publishing private correspondence and outright lying. We never respond to such attacks, we're not into that gutter crap... Anyway, these sites were more important and more popular than us, but now they're a lot smaller than us and not nearly as influential. Grin

As for not getting every story right, well, we've published 11k+ so far. We got very, very few of them wrong. Take into account that we're dealing with a fast moving industry, sometimes major changes happen overnight, sometimes we just get bad info which checks out with several sources, but is proven to be flawed days or weeks later. It happens to all news organizations, not just tech sites. Anyway, juries convict innocent people and give them the death penalty, doctors amputate the wrong limb from time to time, and we get a frequency or price slightly off once in a thousand stories. I can sleep at night, like a baby.  Grin

I've tried emailing in the past but when I use the form on the main site (linked to by clicking on an article author's name) I usually get ignored. Besides, I wanted some kind of way of discussing the suggestion with others and getting it out there, some kind of "forum" if you will, for suggestions.

Email info@fudzilla.com, or any of our authors directly. Better yet, contact me and I'll pass on your comment and fix any mistake you find, informing the author of it, so it wouldn't happen again. I'll send you my email, check your PM.
5  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Typos, spelling and grammar on: December 18, 2008, 01:13:09 AM
Nele use then spell checker build in Firefox.
@ghell we also like linux, site is runing on linux server.  Wink

RSS issue should be fixed with new design which i hope it will be available before 2nd anniversary of site.

Wait a minute, I'm using that one already. It's crap. As limited as Paris Hilton's intellect.

If it's free, it can't be good.

Apart from our server, works like a charm, stable like Wall Street.
6  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Typos, spelling and grammar on: December 17, 2008, 10:59:09 PM
I agree with these points. Spell checkers often don't catch typos (for example, a recent typo "ever" rather than "every" when both are real words) and grammar checkers are not as common as spell checkers because the lexical analysis is much harder than just checking each word against a dictionary and suggesting alternatives based on the least number of differences. Grammar checkers also tend to give cryptic output messages that even native English speakers struggle with and I usually read as "rephrase this sentence until I stop complaining at you".


I was hoping that whoever edits the articles could simply run them through a quick spell checker too. However, even if the articles are not all edited, there must be some way to hook some spell checker (if nix, ispell, aspell, myspell are examples) up to the submission system and have it run automatically.

I run the ones I publish (starting 9AM CET) through a spell checker. A spell checker is in the system, but unfortunately - it's crap.

Perhaps the RSS isn't receiving the edits or is caching the unedited originals? I only check Fudzilla a few times a day rather than hammering on the RSS by keeping an RSS aggregator open so even if it is edited after 15 minutes, I should still be able to see the edit. Edit: RSS just links to the normal page so any problem with not receiving an up to date version of an article would be a problem in the normal page rather than the RSS. I actually get the "printer friendly" version from my filter because it is much easier to scrape.

You're right. Unfortunately, as far as I know, our RSS feed isn't affected by subsequent edits. This is just one of the issues we plan to address shortly, when we redesign the site.

For "paying the bare minimum" for proof readers, if the better English speaking authors aren't willing to proof read for the worse, I meant that you may be able to pay by man hours or on a per-article basis. Proof reading an article takes almost no time at all as the articles are usually just a few hundred words,. Most of the time would be spent waiting around for articles to be published and if you could get away with not paying someone to just sit around waiting, it would be a lot cheaper. If there is already someone in the office that speaks (or rather writes) good English, it could just be added to their job description with a slight pay rise rather than employing an entirely new person, which would avoid any minimum wage problems.

There's always a catch. First of all, most of our native English speakers are not based in Europe, so there's a huge time difference to take into account. We could hire a Brit, but they're too expensive. As I said in my previous post, it all comes down to numbers. If we're faced with the choice of hiring a competent author/reviewer for the same salary, who will deliver good, up to date content, or a native English proof reader, we tend to go with the former option. Hopefully, if we keep growing at this rate, we will be able to afford both soon.

We made a choice to deliver more content, albeit with a few kinks, rather than less content in perfect English. I understand English is your native tongue, but please keep in mind that for most of our readers it's a second language (third even Smiley). As for the time it takes to proof read an article, well you're right it doesn't take too long, but you're also right about waiting around. We start publishing articles when Lars wakes up in Taipei, so that would be 9AM GMT+7. Six hours later the European part of the team wakes up and we publish a lot of stuff over the next 2-3 hours. We don't stop at that, and as you've probably noticed, we publish additional articles during the day. It's 10PM in Europe, and I'm gonna publish a review soon. In other words, there's almost no way a single person could cope with the hours. It would be possible, but if content remained unpublished and waited in the engine for hours, and that's unacceptable in this line of work.

I'm only suggesting any of this because I would prefer that Fudzilla be a bit more of a credible source that I could cite without being ridiculed. I'm probably as sick of all the "bashing" as any of you and just want it to stop. You can't change things like assumptions that you make that later turn out to be wrong or misinterpreting those you interview (which is fine as long as you quote them, allowing the reader to also make their own interpretation) but this is a relatively easy thing to improve to increase credibility. Like Wikipedia, I'm not expecting that Fudzilla will ever be cited anywhere important because of the nature of the articles, leading to the two problems I just mentioned, but you should at least be able to quote articles on overclocking forums without being laughed at by teenagers Roll Eyes

I understand your concern, after all I work here and it would be in my best interest to improve the quality of our content. The thing is, people tend to focus on the quality of language used, rather than the quality of content. I'm aware of this - when people run out of valid arguments, they have nothing left and they start bashing your grammar, spelling, then they go on to nationality, religion, race... You get the picture.  Smiley You're one of our readers - you wouldn't be if we got the facts wrong, lied, or misinformed you.

You have my apologies. I guessed Austrian because you have referred a few times to an Austrian (.at) price comparison site as "local" and I knew you were from around there somewhere Wink I wonder if that's as big an insult as calling me French, as it's around here somewhere - people tend to hate being labelled as a member of their neighbouring countries so sorry again. Smiley I should have got Bosnian from CJ's (.ba) email address on this forum.

Fudo lives in Vienna, as do a few of our reviewers, hence the "local" sites and stores in Vienna. The rest of us are scattered around the world. Austrians speak German, but they hate being called Germans. Bosnians speak bad German, but most would like to emigrate to Germany and don't mind being called German, or Austrian for that matter. Slovakia is nice too, great beer, women and ski-resorts.

By the way, I have acknowledged recent (in the last 6 months) improvements in both of the suggestion threads that I have posted to Wink

Next time you have a suggestion, contact us via email. I promise we won't send your address to Nigerian spammers. Smiley

7  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Typos, spelling and grammar on: December 17, 2008, 12:10:18 PM

Yeah, he doesn't read forums much, the cheeky sub.ed. comments wear him out. Tough work those, eh? Cheesy Tongue

Nedim Hadzic CJ,
Fudzilla staff.

You're paid (poorly) to translate crap, not mess around on the board.

Now, where are my reviews? (crkni!-sub.ed.)
8  Hardware / Processors - CPU / Re: Phenom II 940 Benchmark on: December 17, 2008, 11:09:17 AM
in farsi: sivash az ghas blur nakrdam  Grin mehdiam

we do not have any arctic cooling products in iran ,
we dont have any problem with temp max temp was  55c , it was more under 50c

We are counting the seconds for new AMD Processor it is a huge surprise from AMD Corp.

I hope you weren't cursing in Farsi...  Grin

Keep up the good work.

Hm, we could start distributing Arctic Cooling in Iran... Wink
9  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Suggestion / Re: Typos, spelling and grammar on: December 17, 2008, 11:02:15 AM
This thread wasn't an attempt at bashing. I like Fudzilla, which is why I made this thread. It's a nice easy way to get the information I want quickly. I even wrote a web application that filters the normal RSS feed to my specifications which makes it even better*. This is a suggestion forum and I'm making a suggestion that should remove one of Fudzilla's biggest flaws and give it a lot more credibility. A spelling checker really isn't that hard to use.

Don't worry, we're not that sensitive in this part of the world. We know there's still a lot of room for improvement, and we're working to resolve some issues, both technical and organizational.

The spelling has improved recently but probably because Fudo doesn't seem to be writing nearly as many articles as he used to.

Nah, Fudo still does 4-5 stories a day, but I manage to edit them prior to posting, which sometimes isn't the case (phone, airport etc.)

I'm certainly not laughing at the English used in the articles and, realistically, writing articles in English isn't something that you're ever likely to be commended for. I'm glad that they are in English or I'd have to look elsewhere. If you wrote them in your own languages (Austrian? Slovak?) your target audience would be tiny by comparison and Fudzilla would never have grown as quickly as it has. I did say "I know that for several of the authors, English is not their first language" but English spell checkers are both free and instant (as a minimal solution) and I'm sure you can find one or two people around the world with good enough English to proof read articles before publication, which takes a matter of minutes.

Spell checkers help, but they can't fix everything - you always have to proof read and edit stuff, and it takes a lot of time to fix everything, especially if you use RSS, as you're likely to read a story as soon as it's published, and not 10-15 minutes later, when it's edited for the second time. Austrian doesn't exist, they speak German, and we're Bosnian, not Slovakian. Smiley

What's the point in having a suggestion forum if you just brush off any suggestions that people make and then complain that the suggestion forum isn't full of thanks and appreciation?

Nobody is brushing aside your suggestion, we reply to almost all emails and comments. Try mailing me and you'll get a reply within a few hours.

Surely the articles don't go out live from your "cellpone"s without first going through some kind of editorial process? What about all of those cheeky "sub.ed" comments?

Sometimes they do, but not on a daily basis. When I've got enough time, I fix them and add the cheeky sub.ed. comments.

I don't even know what your point is, let alone whether it is good or even valid. I'm not suggesting this improvement in order to turn Fudzilla into an English lesson, I'm suggesting it to significantly improve Fudzilla's credibility and make it less of a laughing stock. Perhaps then, people wouldn't "bash ... in other forums". Employing a massive internationalisation team is obviously infeasible and just plain silly but luckily it's not needed, as the only published language is currently English. Spell checking software costs nothing and proof readers could either be paid a bare minimum (proof reading approx. 20 small articles a day doesn't take long) or may possibly even volunteer. Maybe that's just the Linux talking. As long as the articles aren't significantly delayed any solution is fine.

Everything costs money in the end. If we can get a proofreader or reviewer/news writer for the same cash, we'll go with the reviewer/news writer. This doesn't mean we won't hire more people to improve the quality of English on the site. We're just getting started, we're still growing.

* hint: another suggestion - (more) customisation in the RSS such as filtering out categories. For example, corporate takeovers and mergers are completely boring IMO and personally I don't care if organisations like Oracle and SAP will ever have little orglings so I filter out the "news" category. Others may only want to read the "mobiles" category.

This is a good idea and we'll probably include it when we redesign the site, I'm hoping we'll get round to it.

Thanks for your comments, feel free to mail us anytime. (I don't read the forum much)
10  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Discussion about Articles / Re: new nokia series on: September 19, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
Yeah, well at least engadget has a few still frames...


Why red? Roll Eyes
11  Hardware / Notebooks / Re: Asus Eee and alike!!!!!!!!! on: June 05, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
Hi everyone this is my first post.
Did anybody noticed that all those new cheap notebooks have only small "Enter" key. This is one thing that really is putting me off in their design.
Not even one company put a keyboard with large "Enter". All those keyboards are small and already uncomfortable to write anything on them,
so why they make it even more difficult to use???!!!

I don't think it's such a huge drawback, you'll get used to it eventually. Of course, keyboards od 9 or 10-inch netbooks can never come close to regular keyboards in terms of comfort... Personally, I find keyboards od 12-inch machines to small and too cramped, let alone those found on netbooks. These machines just aren't designed to be used for hours on end. They're ultraportables, with tiny screens and tiny keyboards and a bigger "enter" key can't really help much.
12  Welcome to Fudzilla Forum / Discussion about Articles / Re: Geforce GTX 280 is hot on: June 05, 2008, 10:45:30 AM
the card gets up to 70C? well that's rather cool for a highend card.

my X850XT and 7800gtx would run at around 95C all the time with no problems at all.

"around 70 degrees Celsius close to the GPU"

So it's 70 C somewhere on the card, not on the GPU itself. I guess Fudo is trying to say that the core temp is even higher. Thanks for this one, I'll tell him to clarify this if at all possible, but I guess he just doesn't know the exact core temp yet and had no choice but to use this figure...
13  Software / Games / Re: Prince of Persia sequel on: May 20, 2008, 10:49:23 PM
i don't care if your male or female;

                                            MARRY ME ....we could be so happy together Cheesy
me neither you can marry me if you like Smiley , i still love original pop Smiley
moreover i'm persian as well , but i'm not a prince lol

Not a prince ? A Shah maybe ?  Grin
14  Software / Games / Re: Prince of Persia sequel on: May 03, 2008, 10:45:46 AM
i don't care if your male or female;

                                            MARRY ME ....we could be so happy together Cheesy

Well, I care...  Grin
15  Software / Games / Re: Prince of Persia sequel on: May 02, 2008, 11:27:07 PM
I wonder if ubisoft will continue to include the famous 'mega glithches' that we have all come to love about the prince of persia games (specifically warrior within) Huh

I guess we can always go back to the original PoP... Damn, where's my 386 ?
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