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		<title>Intel still considers AMD a serious competitor </title>
		<description>Discuss Intel still considers AMD a serious competitor </description>
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			<title>bene says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35321</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hell if John Deere (Fendt or whatever) stops making tractors, I'll go buy a childrens tricycle for my farm if its priced right with more features. While a quadcore Cortex A9 (Tegra 3) delivers round about 10000 MIPS in Dhrystone (integer),an FX-8150 delivers 110000 MIPS. This is factor 10. This is quite ok, if you compare the TDPs. The thing is, a big ARM like quadcore Tegra3 delivers 47MFlops in Linpack (floating point), an FX-8150 delivers 30.8Gflops, this is factor 700!!! many many years will pass, until ARM will be an equivalent for desktop computers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bene</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:34:41 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Medallish says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35319</link>
			<description><![CDATA[An example of not what to do, if you have the choice between Asus and ECS, don't buy ECS for simply supporting the smaller company, because you know ECS builds complete crap That's atleast been my experience over and over again, the best competition Asus probably has is MSI, luckily there's no serious risk of a monopoly in Mainboard companies currently. I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with considering which is best to support for the sake of competition. Oooh buurn you sure got us AMD supporters with that one application, herp derp.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Medallish</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:04:05 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Medallish says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35318</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Jay So you're fine with Monopolies and price fixing? Some of us are consistent, but within damn reason, I usually support the smaller company if what they produce is good enough or better, Llano is a better mobile chip for a lot of people, because not only does it handle normal tasks like office work and surfing "good enough" it's a lot faster than Core I'series in terms of graphics horsepower, while being just as mobile. Business isn't pricefixing, it's shitty business and anyone with half a brain would be against it. I buy what's right for my pocket and my needs, and AMD meets all of them as it is. That people point out what a CPU is good at shouldn't be considered "trolling" it's like people bringing up Superpi, which is useless irl.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Medallish</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 11:57:56 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>las says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35313</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yeah it's very impressive that a AMD EIGHT CORE 3.6 GHz performs like a INTEL FOUR CORE 3.3 GHz in SolidWorks. And losing bigtime in the game tests.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>las</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 10:11:49 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Jay says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35302</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Yeah go trolls again hey I can undervolt this! Hey its a server BEAST! LOL. Seriously you guys? this all you do when you know AMD is having poor products compared to competition? Really monopoly? Well Intel paid the price. Even Samsung, Sharp etc. do LCD price fixing, its called business. Will you stop buying Samsung & go buy Haier tv's then? I buy what gives a better bang for my buck. Hell if AMD stops making CPU's I'll go buy ARM CPU for my desktop if its priced right with more features. You guys are just a bunch of trolls who are trying to put this illusion in front of readers how Intel is evil & AMD is a saint. Just a [censored]ing bunch of AMD PR guys. Real consumer will always buy whats right for his pocket + features unlike you trolls]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:09:55 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>bene says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35283</link>
			<description><![CDATA[depends on the load (integer/fp,single/multithreaded)h igh clocks are always inefficient. like i said, its not made for gaming. if you want to squeeze 1-2fps more out of your gpu, buy an intel. in addition to that win7 does not support all features of bulldozer and trinity (like core parking) properly. when you switch to win8 next year, there will be improvements for bulldozer and trinity. take a look at this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8150-zambezi-bulldozer-990fx,3043-23.html tell me only one fm1 board not capable of changing voltages! if you can't do it in the bios/uefi, use software like fusiontweaker. of course its not good for random people, but i guess everyone reading fudzilla has the knowledge base to undervolt.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bene</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:47:01 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>123s says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35282</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Well, dont forget why Intel had to pay AMD. Who knows where they would be without Intels monopoly abuse.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>123s</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:40:07 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>dicobalt says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Ok that's all well and good but AMD and OEMs don't configure Llano to work that way with consumer products. That means end products are not competitive unless you happen to know how to undervolt and you also have hardware capable of doing that. OEM customers are the majority of customers and they do not meet either of those conditions. In addition Llano will also be transitioning over to Bulldozer/Piledriver which is even less energy efficient under load.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>dicobalt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:52:58 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>las says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35274</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If not AMD bought ATi or Intel had thrown money in their face several times, they would have been gone by now.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>las</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:24:47 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>bene says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/25132-intel-still-considers-amd-a-serious-competitor#comment-35264</link>
			<description><![CDATA[and bulldozer is a really good server cpu (high integer+multith readed loads). look at these benchmarks: http://www.tecchannel.de/server/prozessoren/2038251/cpu_test_amd_opteron_6262_he_und_6276_mit_16_core_bulldozer/index.html amd is too small, so they had too decide, what too choose. gamers or servers. servers have better margins, so they ve chosen that. anyway... amd is good for everyone (netbook, notebook, htpc, low end desktop, servers) except high end gamers, they really should buy an intel.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bene</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 14:42:08 +0100</pubDate>
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