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		<title>Analyst clarifies his Nvidia worries</title>
		<description>Discuss Analyst clarifies his Nvidia worries</description>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[And now think of this in a few years when transistors will be really small to fit all under a lid but also be powerful enough. Also, don't buy into the whole "ARM will dominate x86" crap. Right now ARM chips are small and weak. By the time ARM gets enough processing power gathered on one die to battle x86, they will face power issues and temperature issues as well. One thing a lot of people miss is that x86 is heavy-workload suited, something ARM isn't but they will have to be if things will move forward. Right now the amount of power ARM has is enough, but barely. Same thing happened with browsers too... you have slim and fast ones, but once you put more add-ons on them to expand their functionality they become slower, eat more memory.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:27:08 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28319</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dribble, you're referring to something else, on die GPU. I was talking about a silicon interposer where the GPU die is bumped in place on the base of the CPU die. So instead of using separate packaging (BGA PCB's) and interconnects between the two chips, the CPU has an established PCIe x16 pin grid layout printed on the substrate on which the GPU gets planted... bump planted that is. Look here: http://semiaccurate.com/2010/12/29/intel-puts-gpu-memory-ivy-bridge/ the green part is the base of the die but extended to fit other dies, a base that only has to have a pin layout and then the GPU would be where the blue memory is... or along it if they want all of them. The interposer is what makes up those pins between the base and the upper die.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:20:44 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>dicobalt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28299</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It would take cooperation, and that's something Nvidia always refuses to do. I'm sure Nvidia has turned down offers from Intel already. They could certainly do it because they are both technically capable companies. I wouldn't consider the technical challenges a real problem for Intel+Nvidia. I don't buy into ARM replacing x86 though, that's assuming a whole lot about something that isn't even happening yet.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>dicobalt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:35:57 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Dribble says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28280</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Don't think adding an nvidia gpu to intel chips is going to help. It would take a lot of very close co-operation exchanging design know-how neither would like to give away. It would also take a lot of effort from both of them as their silicon works so differently. And at the end of it what's the most intel would pay nvidia - a few dollars a chip? Not going to happen unless intel take over nvidia. Then there's the fact that ARM is slowly displacing x86 - nvidia would be much better off doing what they are doing and concentrating in ARM designs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dribble</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:25:46 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28272</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I was thinking this ever since Intel announced 3D stacked die tech... if they can put GBs of memory on the same CPU die, they could also put a decent GPU like a GPGPU one from nvidia, except intel won't have it and after dear leader's anti-intel propaganda, you can wipe that thought.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:57:55 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>SlickR says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28255</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think Nvidia will decline in Q3, but make a comeback in Q4 if they release their new GPU architecture.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>SlickR</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:04:01 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>bardenck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[+1 ... perfect post,while their gpu's are still relevant is the kicker, couldn't agree more.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bardenck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:48:47 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>dicobalt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28240</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree, Nvidia needs to swallow their pride and sign a licensing deal with Intel to get their GPUs integrated. They need to do it quick too, while their GPUs are still relevant.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>dicobalt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:51:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>PorscheRacer14 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28236</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It's only going to get worse for nVIDIA as time goes on. They're etting squeezed from consoles, integrated graphics, mobile PC graphics and unless Tegra really changes things, it'll only stem the bleeding, not stop it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>PorscheRacer14</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:22:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Warrior24_7 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23615-analyst-clarifies-his-nvidia-worries#comment-28189</link>
			<description><![CDATA["Gill downgraded the company even as it had a big jump in graphics processing unit (GPU) market share versus AMD". :eek: Wow!!! Somebody got their palm greased!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Warrior24_7</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:37:27 +0100</pubDate>
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