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		<title>AMD officially rolls out A-Series desktop APUs</title>
		<description>Discuss AMD officially rolls out A-Series desktop APUs</description>
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			<title>fteoath64 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23269-amd-officially-rolls-out-a-series-desktop-apus#comment-26376</link>
			<description><![CDATA[[quote name="Cartman"]No matter how much i love AMD to me this makes no sense... True. Make no sense for a user like you because a discrete GPU is your priority. For most who wants decent integrated GPU with decent CPU grunt, iLano chips are the only thing going. HTPC users will see a boon here. And so will cheaper mainstream notebooks that will run 5 hours or more with standard batteries.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>fteoath64</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:15:51 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23269-amd-officially-rolls-out-a-series-desktop-apus#comment-26152</link>
			<description><![CDATA[You want performance? Pay up!... end of story. BTW, in Romania the i3 2100 is way overpriced and at ze Germans it's above or the same as the AMD's suggested price set for the A8's. So far, only you Swedes seem to be out of touch with the rest of the worlds.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 13:27:12 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Exodite says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's not about the money, it's about performance. From where I'm standing the graphical prowess of desktop Llano isn't good enough for gaming. With that in mind, and considering that it's a mainstream chip, it's not a solution I could recommend. Pricing is a bit touch and go as well. Over here the A8-3850 is ~1250 SEK. For the sake of comparison the i3 2100 is ~950 SEK and an i5 2400 is ~1550 SEK. It's a bit oddly positioned as things stand.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Exodite</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:49:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>youserzero says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23269-amd-officially-rolls-out-a-series-desktop-apus#comment-26137</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Your friends might be pissed at you for giving bad advice if they ever find out how good the alternative really was.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>youserzero</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:07:33 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Exodite says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[While that is an excellent point, and I personally believe it to be a likely scenario, the question is whether or not AMD has those years if they keep neglecting their CPU performance. Much as I like the platform, and their graphics division, they badly need a new CPU architecture. Preferably two years ago.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Exodite</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 04:43:19 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>mrdoubleb says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23269-amd-officially-rolls-out-a-series-desktop-apus#comment-26097</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think, that while replacing IGPs has some cost/performance/board layout benefits, the really important thing is that AMD is laying the groundworks for mainstream GPGPU computing. This is always the chicken and egg dilemma, but just like with 64bit, they make the first move, and software will catch up. In a couple of years, we should see applications like video encoders, browsers and probably more, take advantage of the horsepower laying there, wasted, in the idle GPU.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>mrdoubleb</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 19:43:26 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>gamoniac says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@redunion1940, I agree, but Fusion would probably replace entry-level discrete graphic cards. It is already nearly as powerful as my HD5570 (still a bit slower despite the same specs). @Cartman, why wouldn't I get an APU if it is more power efficient efficient and better than the old IGP? If they can deliver both functionality on one, why insist on two separate chips? I do agree that it is a bit disappointing that the graphic core is taking away some of the bandwidth, but it will eventually help the CPU, like Intel's Quicksync technology. I also see your point that for now, the real competition could come from Phonem II + discrete card. But for entry level PC, I think Llano has the right price even for now.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>gamoniac</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:15:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>redunion1940 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/23269-amd-officially-rolls-out-a-series-desktop-apus#comment-26086</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Fusion wasn't meant to replace discrete graphics. It was meant to replace the IGP. So just like in a regular desktop if you want more power then you are going to need discrete. In a laptop this is a very appealing product. And while there is a difference between AMD and INTEL processers in performance just like GPU it isn't as noticible as the charts suggest. Most people are not crunching super high definition movies and ect. So it comes down to personal needs as always.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>redunion1940</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:29:45 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Cartman says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yea but in the end i dont expect miracle from BD fusion either ... Real GFX card is real GFX card, no matter what i doubt BD will change that, not that i wouldnt like i would... I just dont see that in near future...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Cartman</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:59:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Cartman, considering that AMD will retire Stars next year and their main core will be Bulldozer, it makes sense. Right now AMD is still waiting to get BD out the door of the GF fabs. Llano, for now is their stepping stone for Fusion BD, next year it will be Bulldozer all the way. Without OpenCL, right now, it's not so appealing, but having a mainboard with 4 native USB 3.0 ports and 6 full speed and not bottlenecked SATA 6Gbps, does sound appealing.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 16:49:39 +0100</pubDate>
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