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		<description>Discuss AMD Fusion Z-series promises ultimate HD tablets</description>
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			<title>adv says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/22893-amd-fusion-z-series-promises-ultimate-hd-tablets#comment-23623</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We still don't know the TDP, but the "old" C-50 tablet version is rated at 5W. I thinks the regular one used in netbooks has a 10W TDP. No point in making a tablet variant unless it will do better than the one used in the Iconia, so the TDP should probably come close Oak Trail's 3W. But you're right - even 3W sounds like way too much compared to ARM chips... X86 CANNOT go under 1W, its just not possible competing with arm (remove legacy components from X86 PLEAAASE!)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>adv</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 09:03:21 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/22893-amd-fusion-z-series-promises-ultimate-hd-tablets#comment-23609</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Twist3d1080, I got my value from a Phytec published embedded board with OMAP4 1GHz, the TDP is set to 3W max for all that it does, but also contains an USB host chip and a DRAM chip. If a power usage testing was done, I can't tell. They might just be summing up of all chips' TDP's as it is in each chips' sepcs, which isn't a good method, but still it shows that a general system would not be in the below 1W range.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 15:41:28 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>davidricardo2008 says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Both Intel and AMD publish TDP which is generally suggests max power. Under average usage model... actual avg. power consumption is about 20-25% of TDP. Thus oaktrail with 3.8W TDP (inclding chipset) would burn avg. power of 1Watt. ARM folks whether it is Nvidia or qualcomm...nobody publish actual TDP. ARM guys generally talk in terms of avg. power. Generally A9 SOC burn about 0.8-1Watt of average power. so there is this huge misconception that ARM is more power efficient as people have been comparing TDP for x86 vs Avg. power for ARM. This ARM energy efficiency lie is about to end. The moment x86 guys bring out single chip SOC ....there will be little ARM advantage and x86 has significantly higher performance for given watts.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>davidricardo2008</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 02:39:40 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Twist3d1080 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/22893-amd-fusion-z-series-promises-ultimate-hd-tablets#comment-23601</link>
			<description><![CDATA[[quote name="JonhyW"] Clarification: ARM dual core Cortex-A9 + GPU PowerVR : 0.7-0.8 W. [/quote} snip... I have looked for little while on the internet I can't find any data about TDP and the Tegra line, could you provide links backing up these claims? I have seen a lot of conjecture and speculation but no hard numbers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Twist3d1080</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 20:43:42 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>JonhyW says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/22893-amd-fusion-z-series-promises-ultimate-hd-tablets#comment-23587</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Clarification: ARM dual core Cortex-A9 + GPU PowerVR : 0.7-0.8 W. The efficiency of ARM architecture is 4x-5x higher than of x86 at ultra low TDP. It means the equivalent performance for CPU+GPU: ARM Cortex-A9 (2x1GHz) + GPU (total TDP 0.7-0.8 Watts) has the same performance as Intel 3 Watts. Nvidia Tegra 3: ARM quad-core Cortex-A9 (4x1.5 GHz). Only CPU part will have 3 Watts. It means that Intel will have at least 12 Watts for the same performance. And AMD a bit higher than that. But Cortex-A9 won't go higher than 3 Watts. That is where AMD and Intel beats ARM (TDP > 12 Watts).]]></description>
			<dc:creator>JonhyW</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 02:48:32 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>AMD says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's not a right comparison also when you compare the TDP of an APU with a miniature CPU. I understand that they both have their uses. You can't fit Z in a smartphone. On the other side, the Z is a better option when you have enough battery.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AMD</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 20:47:31 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/22893-amd-fusion-z-series-promises-ultimate-hd-tablets#comment-23569</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Cortex A9 doesn't have a GPU so it's not a right comparison... A9 is a CPU only around which a GPU gets worked in, either Tegra or PowerVR and none of them are as good as Z's. This puts an OMAP4 dual core A9 + PowerVR SGX540 at around 3W TDP. If you compare that with a Z, you can pick between longer leave-me-alone time or better processing power.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 18:35:15 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>AMD says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[AMD Z processor has a powerful GPU with it. The videos that Z-series can play, will play like Powerpoint slides on Cortex A9.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AMD</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 17:45:57 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>nele says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[We still don't know the TDP, but the "old" C-50 tablet version is rated at 5W. I thinks the regular one used in netbooks has a 10W TDP. No point in making a tablet variant unless it will do better than the one used in the Iconia, so the TDP should probably come close Oak Trail's 3W. But you're right - even 3W sounds like way too much compared to ARM chips...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>nele</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 17:28:58 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>JonhyW says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[TDP, TDP and TDP. AMD Fusion-Z - 5 Watts Intel Oak Trail - 3 Watts ARM dual core Cortex-A9 - 0.7-0.8 Watts. >95% of whole market of tablets and smartphones. The all-day battery is possible only with TDP less than 1 Watt.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>JonhyW</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 15:49:45 +0100</pubDate>
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