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		<title>Newspapers dying behind paywalls</title>
		<description>Discuss Newspapers dying behind paywalls</description>
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			<title>nECrO says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7767</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Bl0bb3r Yes. Not only am I supporting your view, I thank you for your last post blast... :P You pretty much spelled out all the points I was trying to make M8. I just didn't have the time as I was headed out to work. When the dust settles, the weak die and the smart and strong adapt, what we'll likely see is that ads will go from being the life blood of these companies to something akin to the soda machines in front of department stores. IE, a little extra cash to add to the real money made from subscriptions.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>nECrO</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:43:31 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7748</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Google is a lot more than that... a lot of their revenue, and what an ordianry user like you doesn't see, comes from corporate deals like this one: http://tinyurl.com/32vv39m Side note, that would be a rehash, the original story is not by engadget and I wouldn't mind paying the Wall Street Journal for an online subscription if it wouldn't be $8/month but something more in line with the global economy and not just that of Wall Streeters.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:05:06 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7747</link>
			<description><![CDATA[So they already have computers, they just remove the tree-cutting and gas-guzzling parts out of equation and replace them with petroleum/nuclear/green powered mainframes. And then there is the number of audience... with paper you have only some many people you can reach before it runs out... or production will have to be increased. That means higher costs. With the internet as a medium, they can reach 10-fold as many people with relatively smaller costs. So in the past we had this: reporter + computer + paper + news-boy = 100 cubits * 100K subscribers = 10 mil cubits Today and the future: reporter + computer + internet = 10 cubits * 10 mil subscribers = 100 mil cubits Damn, that's a'lotta cubits!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:03:50 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7746</link>
			<description><![CDATA[That, I'm afraid, is one of the dumbest things anyone can say on the internet. Content doesn't just pop up! Someone makes it. True, someone else copies it... but that's another matter. From my perspective, it's not right to ask the same price or a too-high price for information on the internet as offline because it's not justifiable. For one, with paper they have large costs from resources, manufacturing, distributing and so on. With the internet, that all is reduced to (somewhat costly) hardware and internet. Anyway, it's a move forward even if not a huge one.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:56:20 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7744</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Nor will movie studios see my money for some lame and poor executed movies just because they have good ratings on IMDB. In case you didn't know, the ratings start off big, deceiving actually, and then ever so gradually they decline. Not hard to figure out why. I do pirate, but I also collect good movies. Recently I saw Scott Pilgrim, which was a good movie in my opinion... I'm going to buy the 1080p for my collection when it gets out. Nor will game publishers see my money for games that have just good-looking graphics. I like to chose with what I spend my time. See what I just did there? I separated content creators from rehashers. That means I'm willing to pay authentic content sources, but not copy-cats and I have the right to pick.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:50:25 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7742</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@johnny boy, a majority for an opinion doesn't make it right. This isn't a democracy where you vote based on how many support an idea, it's simply a fact. Regarding the not speaking thing, you said you won't speak in a previous comment about this, and I'm waiting to see that put into practice. Otherwise all I can say is that you're full of BS. Basically, that makes you a troll. And I never said others aren't allowed to speak... just you, based on your statement. So please, shhhh! On the next thing, you're right, they won't. Nor will record labels see my money on a CD for their 3 tracks that I like and another 10 that are remixes or just fillers. I prefer to go to a live concert and pay my gratitude towards the star there.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:45:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7741</link>
			<description><![CDATA[That, in itself, doesn't suggest a healthy ad-based cash-flow by which to motivate everyone to make a better job. We read the articles as they are, I myself am NOT bothered by the mistakes, some moan, others troll, some of us express out dislike towards Fuad's bias, others support him. This all isn't pointing to anything even remotely relevant to the problem at hand. Simply put, we are talking about a bunch of people like Fuad, that go out, interview, write, edit, and post the stories, and not make up 90% of their work out of rehashes. Valid point? I'm saying yes! For this kind of work, a few fractions of a cent, per article from a few million readers goes a long way... way more than blocked ads.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:34:39 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7739</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't see the contadiction between what I said and Fudzilla's ad model. Proof to what? Page views DONT equal ad views! Just because I'm reading quick rehashes, non-edited, and which took a few minutes out of someone's free time doesn't make it proof and I don't see how it invalidates what I wrote. For all we know, Fuad is the only one that goes on meetings/conferences to extract intel, then we have the tester(s), which spend some time to prepare the reviews, but judging from their lengths, I doubt they take as much time as W1z from TPU or Tom Logan from OC3D, then there are the site admins/mods, nele is one that we know, and then there are the rehashers, which take even less time to prep their articles, with plenty of grammar errors.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:29:29 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7737</link>
			<description><![CDATA[As a matter of fact, there was an article on yahoo, I think, that posted some ridiculous numbers that those known vloggers make a year, all from that ... promoting, to call it as it is. And as another matter of fact, you, just like everyone else supporting the ad-only idea, has no clue what exactly goes on behind the scene. Yes, we do see ads, but I doubt that's it. Also, I believe nele said once something about he wishing people wouldn't block the ads on the site? I'm not sure... I might be wrong though. If he did say that in a comment, he's not alone. I've met cases in which owners of sites were disappointed that people block ads. At this point, you seem clueless to me, because ad-only-supported sites don't exist anymore.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:21:48 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>Bl0bb3r says:</title>
			<link>http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/20714-newspapers-dying-behind-paywalls#comment-7736</link>
			<description><![CDATA[First thing we aren't talking about rehashing, no offense to Fudzilla staff. Most of the stories here are rehashes, actually just bits, from other sites, but sometimes they have their own original stories. Keyword: sometimes. Also, there's no fact that a site is just supported by adds. PERIOD. Just because you appear stubborn in an argument doesn't make it fact. From what I see on youtube, the babble-mouths, every time someone known talks on their channel about a product they get incentives or sponsorship for that particular vlog. And no-ads clips.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bl0bb3r</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:16:56 +0100</pubDate>
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